Curse

NagaSurayami · Nov 06, 2006, 02:54 AM // 02:54

I don't care about the elite mission I want appearance changes. ^_^

Alt F Four · Nov 06, 2006, 02:58 AM // 02:58

So wait, Gaile just told you all that we're getting the first real huge content addition since Sorrow's and some people are complaining about a title?

Uh.

What?

Zinger314 · Nov 06, 2006, 03:03 AM // 03:03

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Originally Posted by Alt F Four

So wait, Gaile just told you all that we're getting the first real huge content addition since Sorrow's and some people are complaining about a title?

Uh.

What?

Non-sequitor > Metaphors.

That said, ArenaNet took a gamble.

Sidra · Nov 06, 2006, 03:13 AM // 03:13

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Non-sequitor > Metaphors.

That said, ArenaNet took a gamble.

To use a metaphor, the dye are still rolling.

Feminist Terrorist · Nov 06, 2006, 03:15 AM // 03:15

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Originally Posted by Sidra

To use a metaphor, the dye are still rolling.

No, they're not stacking. The die may be rolling though.

Sidra · Nov 06, 2006, 03:20 AM // 03:20

Sorry. I'm horrible w/ homonyms :-(

/offtopic

Gli · Nov 06, 2006, 03:21 AM // 03:21

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Originally Posted by Alt F Four

So wait, Gaile just told you all that we're getting the first real huge content addition since Sorrow's and some people are complaining about a title?

Uh.

What?

Yes, well... the name of the topic is "Dev Update: Ranks & Elite Missions". I'm terribly sorry we're discussing points introduced by the original poster. I won't apologize though for not being terribly excited about content that they owe us being added to the game a few months late.

Ninna · Nov 06, 2006, 03:22 AM // 03:22

thanks for the clarification

I'm very happy with Nightfall and look forward to the game update

Alt F Four · Nov 06, 2006, 03:25 AM // 03:25

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Originally Posted by Gli

Yes, well... the name of the topic is "Dev Update: Ranks & Elite Missions". I'm terribly sorry we're discussing points introduced by the original poster. I won't apologize though for not being terribly excited about content that they owe us being added to the game a few months late.

It's a title. People are acting like the whole game was a failure because you can't grind a FREAKING TITLE.

And I don't think any content is late. Nightfall was worth my money way more then Factions was, why would I be already complaining for more?

Stop whining.

sindex · Nov 06, 2006, 03:31 AM // 03:31

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Originally Posted by aohige

It's nice to see that GuildWars community has developed to become the biggest whining sissies in the entire online gaming community. There's not one game, not ONE, out there that has more reflections of user demands than Guild Wars. They constantly reflect what the users have been bitching about, over the course of the entire existence.
I think the devs spoils us too much.

Btw, Gaile, I appreciate your continuous effort to communicate with us the latest info, and hope the missed content will be coming soon. Keep up the great work.

You want to go after the real winner's here, try then at Gamespot. Especially the annoying one that name starts with a "T" but that’s all I will say; he is subjugated to his own opinion no matter how many times I tried to shut him down. I believe some people have an entitled opinion, but the people here compared to Gamespot are not trying to stab at the heart of GW.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/guild...gn3/forum.html

Anyways going back on topic, I think it’s splendid that at least we know that there is more to the development of GW: Nightfall in store for us. No matter how long it takes.

Gli · Nov 06, 2006, 03:44 AM // 03:44

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Originally Posted by Alt F Four

It's a title. People are acting like the whole game was a failure because you can't grind a FREAKING TITLE.

No, really, the real problem here is your particular brand of high-octane fanboyism that precludes rational discussion of certain aspects of the game that even the developers acknowledge require attention, as witnessed by the very existance of this thread. Me, I'm perfectly able to see small flaws in the game without dismissing the whole package out of hand. I'm not "acting like the whole game was a failure because you can't grind a FREAKING TITLE."

But don't let that stop you from throwing your little fanboy tantrums, if that's what floats your boat.

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Originally Posted by Alt F Four

Stop whining.

And then what, write constructive, mature and cosmopolitan posts like you do?

mrdbeau · Nov 06, 2006, 03:58 AM // 03:58

2 quick comments:

1) Before Nightfall came out, it was not possible to gain the fifth tier title of elite skill capping, elite skill hunter. Old characters have no way of gaining the survivor title. So what? Sure, it's not a perfect analogy, but the point is there have been other titles that are impossible to get at certain points in the game, but they have absolutely no relevance. The same can be said for the Sunspear title track. After a certain rank, it has no relevance. Is some part of the game being restricted because you can't get your max level sunspear title? No. So there really isn't a problem. Sure, some people might have used an exploit to get the max title already, but is that affecting anyone's gameplay in any way?

2) I've never been through Urgoz or the Deep. I play a pretty good bit of pve, but I've never felt like either of those missions were something I needed to do to get a complete fractions experience. I even gave a ferry 150g one time to get ferried to Urgoz and then decided not to go. Point is, I've never felt like I was missing out on much by not doing an "elite" mission. Furthermore, no one even has access to the Nightfall elite mission yet nor do we have any idea how access will be controlled. Undoubtedly it will be based on individual merit as there is no faction-type system in Nightfall, so I think it's a bit premature to speculate or be overly concerned about it.

Angelus Mortifer · Nov 06, 2006, 03:59 AM // 03:59

perhaps different way to sunspear rank 9: I don't know if it works, but i think it could work (also its too late for me ^^)
There are 2 quests, which consists of subquests, where u get sunspear pts for. If u make the subquests, cancel the mainquest and get it again, it could be possible to do them over and over again, till r9. I've done the quests before r8, so couldn'T proof it. Anyone who could test it?

Title wish: It would be nice if there were a title for solving quests. U get for everything a title, but for solving all not repeatable quests in Tyria fg, there isn't a title :/
Any chance that it will be added? ^^
Should be possible, cause if u solved the quests, its saved somewhere, so the information is somewhere in ur database ^^

The Great Al · Nov 06, 2006, 04:04 AM // 04:04

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Originally Posted by Alt F Four

So wait, Gaile just told you all that we're getting the first real huge content addition since Sorrow's and some people are complaining about a title?

Uh.

What?

Clearly you found nothing wrong with the "just because it's in the manual doesn't mean that its going to be ready at the release date" line. OK - the elite mish isn't in the game, whatever, I can deal with it. However, I don't think Anet should be advertising this as woohoo a FREE update! because clearly (unless I am hugely mistaken) this was something that should have been included with the game,but then maybe time ran out, or a huge bug was found, etc. None of this frustration is meant towards Gaile, she obviously wasnt the one who put that line in the manual, nor did she prevent the coders from finishing the game on time - however, I do believe that is what we got, an unfinished game, and I would be a lot happier if that could just be admitted.

Gaile Gray · Nov 06, 2006, 04:16 AM // 04:16

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Originally Posted by SirErnieMacGloop

I find it very unfortunate that what was included in the game packaging ('manuscripts') and the online manual (which was online up til yesterday as of 9:14PM EST - still in my Internet cache) both stating misleading things about the elite mission being in NightFall.

Snap me a screenshot, because we have never posted the Nightfall Manual. We should, and we will, but we have not done so. Therefore, I'd love to see what's in your cache upon which you're basing a groundless argument.

coldplay · Nov 06, 2006, 04:19 AM // 04:19

Gaile Gray, plz fix some quest bugs soon so I can leave the noob island with all quest done.

brokenmonkey · Nov 06, 2006, 04:20 AM // 04:20

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Snap me a screenshot, because we have never posted the Nightfall Manual. We should, and we will, but we have not done so. Therefore, I'd love to see what's in your cache upon which you're basing a groundless argument.

Dang, Gaile, with sum spice lol . NEVER guys, I Never saw it there ether=)

Just Kidding Gaile, just having some fun

Gaile Gray · Nov 06, 2006, 04:25 AM // 04:25

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Originally Posted by The Great Al

...however, I do believe that is what we got, an unfinished game, and I would be a lot happier if that could just be admitted.

Time for an admission: I admit that no game we make is ever finished. We will constantly work to refresh the content; to add to it, when practical; to polish and refine it; to restructure skills for greater balance; to celebrate real-world and gameworld holidays and events; and to listen to our fans and try our darnedest to incorporate their requests -- not just during the release of a game, but, when it is possible, in updates between releases.

There, do you feel better?

I know I do.

Arkantos · Nov 06, 2006, 04:26 AM // 04:26

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Originally Posted by Manuscripts Pg.123

Special Missions
The second Guild Wars campaign, Factions, introduced two new mission subtypes. You'll see then in Nightfall as well.

Hmm...?

aohige · Nov 06, 2006, 04:29 AM // 04:29

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Originally Posted by The Great Al

Clearly you found nothing wrong with the "just because it's in the manual doesn't mean that its going to be ready at the release date" line. OK - the elite mish isn't in the game, whatever, I can deal with it. However, I don't think Anet should be advertising this as woohoo a FREE update! because clearly (unless I am hugely mistaken) this was something that should have been included with the game,but then maybe time ran out, or a huge bug was found, etc. None of this frustration is meant towards Gaile, she obviously wasnt the one who put that line in the manual, nor did she prevent the coders from finishing the game on time - however, I do believe that is what we got, an unfinished game, and I would be a lot happier if that could just be admitted.

I don't recall ever, having a finished online game product on release.
Can you name me one, to refresh my memory?